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Naked Mile Interview
(before and after the run):

The Traveler

Feeling the wind dance on my body is very stimulating and erotic to me.

One fellow wrote me two days before the run to tell me he'd decided to come run in Ann Arbor (he lives in a large Midwestern state). We tried to meet on purpose -- and failed, due to e-mail snafus and all that (my laptop was in the shop, so I had to get my e-mail through HotMail -- not an easy task). But Fate was with us, and we met totally by accident -- each of us asked the same guy for directions to the starting point. It turns out the guy was wrong, and we and about 6 other people ended up one long block away from the correct point. Totally by chance, each of us figured out that the other guy must be the one we had been looking for!

We had a great time together -- holding each other's clothes, camera, whatever -- and comparing notes on the experience. He let me interview him both before and after running. I'll call him "Mr. A".

was just mentioning to Mr. A that I interviewed two people earlier today -- a bisexual graduate student and a gay sophomore -- and he said he might be interested in meeting them, especially the grad student. I asked how come, and you said...?

Less experience.

Bi's are less experienced?

Yes, exactly.

And so that makes them more fun?

I believe so. We'll see, I hope?

What would make someone inexperienced be more fun?

More willing to explore different things, I believe -- because they've not tried it yet.

What's an example of a kind of thing that you'd like to do with one of them that other people have said no to you about?

Chew on his bubble butt -- if he has one.

Oooh! OK!

[NOTE: In fact, he and the bisexual fellow did not meet later on. This was just a casual, non-serious idea that came into his head.]

o you've come all the way here from that large Midwestern state -- what brought you here?

Continental Airlines.

[I laugh; his timing is perfect.] And why did you come here?

Cause I went to "Jim's Pen is Central" and saw this cool thing happening and I wanted to check it out myself.

 think it is pretty cool. So why do you think it's cool? Why is running naked in public cool?

Feeling the wind dance on your body is very stimulating and erotic to me.

Sounds like you've had that experience before.

Yes [he chuckles].

Where?

In town where I live, in the park.

So you've been naked in the park?

Oh yeah.

A public park?

A public park, at night.

Since it's at night, no one can see you.

Right.

So no one's ever run into you there?

No.

So you're real careful.

Exactly!

So you like the feeling of the wind whistling through your everything...

Exactly. Feels awesome. Feels great.

he guys I know who are really exhibitionists -- who get off sexually on being naked -- would imagine that you'd be walking around with a hard-on when you did that. Was that the case?

Semi-hard comes and goes; it doesn't stay hard. The body adjusts; you get used to it. But it's still erotic to me.

How old are you?

28.

And had you done anything naked before you started being naked in the park?

I went to a public nudist lake, and hung out there.

Would that be [Xxxxx Xxxxx]?

It would be! [He laughs.]

I know too much about that state. I won't mention the name if you don't want me to.

o you decided to come here, and -- how long did you think about it before you actually bought your ticket?

Two weeks.

Was it one of those ideas that you just couldn't get out of your head, or what?

Exactly.

Cause for me, when I get a new nudist idea in my head, it just sticks there and sticks there and burns and grows and gets wonderful and then I have to do something about it.

I'll get an idea and then I'll act upon it within a week. I don't procrastinate. I'm daring -- not stupid!

That's a good way of putting it. And this is a daring but not stupid event, so you're in the right place!

This way I can do it in public and not be worried about getting caught. That's the difference.

ight, right. What other daring but not stupid things have you done?

Walked into a hotel lobby buck naked.

Really! What time of day?

It was at 1 AM.

And what was the occasion?

I was asked to do so. It was a dare to show up at this guy's hotel room in the buff -- and I did.

Wow. Was there money bet on this by your friends or enemies?

No, just a blowjob!

h, well that's good! Give me another example.

I ran naked in the streets through Houston Texas about 2 AM.

What was the reason to do that?

That was a dare.

Another dare?

That time two guys saw me do it and they started applauding.

How wonderful! Was there a blowjob involved in that, too?

No. Just to do it.

o who gives these dares to you?

A very close friend of mine. The other one I mentioned -- at the hotel -- was from online.

Aha. Is your close friend also gay?

Yes. He was supposed to come [here] with me, but he couldn't get time off work so he didn't make it.

[Jokingly] Excuses, excuses! What's more important -- nakedness or your job?

[He chuckles.] He said his job this time -- maybe next time.

He wants you to scout it out for him.

Exactly. And I'll do it!

id you bring a camera?

Yes I did, but I think I'm going to take it back to my hotel room. I don't want to be jumped.

It's my experience that if they see that you're naked, you're not going to get jumped. I can't guarantee that, of course, but that's my experience.

Then I'll go for it.

If you think of anything else you want to say, I'll turn the tape recorder back on.

Allrighty, dude!

e go to the race. Mr. A likes it so much that he runs it twice -- the second time totally naked, with me holding his shorts, and his shoes in the trunk of my car.

Along the way, we listen to the Michigan Fight Song being sung from the steps of the Art Museum.

After several minutes' shivering at the end (he's a lot thinner than me) -- due to a miscommunication about where to meet at the end -- we finally get back together and return to the car and continue the interview.

  want to hear ANYTHING about your reactions. You said that it was fun, but you might not do it again next year?

That's correct. I thought it was fun streaking, but I felt very self-conscious because the majority of these people are straight. Plus they like to do name-calling, so it's not easy to feel like I fit in here.

What was the name-calling you heard?

I can't think of anything specific; I just heard name calling.

I heard people saying, "Hey, you're too old to be a student!" -- to me, anyway.

That's the stuff I was hearing. I'm glad you said it. But not just that -- other stuff, too.

Last year there were a lot more calls of "fag" and a lot more anti-camera stuff than there was this year. One guy tried to knock the camera out of my hands this year -- but other than that, there was nothing for me, personally.

Yeah, I read that on your website, actually.

ut you said the guys were cute!

That is very true. Of course, they're everywhere -- we saw those, and that's what's good about the race. You get all these really hot, cool pictures. A lot of bubble butts!

Absolutely!

So that part is well worth it.

ow what about the cops?

What about the cops? [I chuckle.] I didn't see too many; I was too busy running naked.

I thought there were more cops this year than last year, and thus it was somewhat better organized than it was last year. There were still some dangerous areas to run through, as people closed in on you [to get a better look], but most of the time there was a space to run.

Yeah, I felt very safe running, actually. I wasn't here last year so I'm just going by your word. It's true.

And I should mention that we're both naked here in the car, as I'm driving you back to your hotel.

This is true. It's something different, things we like to do. Daring, not stupid! That's the watchword! That's my motto.

o what daring but not stupid things do you have on your agenda for the future?

More streaking! Anywhere possible! Never streak the unknowing -- it could get you arrested!

True. Do you think you might go to Bay to Breakers this year in San Francisco?

Probably not.

See, there it's also not a gay event, but on the other hand it's San Francisco, so everybody's cool about it.

One naked person in like, what, 50?

Oh, there's 600,000 people who run the race, and there can't be more than 60 who are naked.

Aah. That's not enough naked people.

So you want a mass naked demonstration that's safe but sane.

Exactly! And no name-calling!

Right! There wasn't any in San Francisco that I can remember.

ell, thanks for letting me interview you.

You're welcome!


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